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    "id": 1123814,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. M. Kajwang’",
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        "legal_name": "Moses Otieno Kajwang'",
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    "content": "Not knowing that the secretary to a Committee is a very powerful person because they can doctor the minutes if they wanted to engage in mischief. They said they could not be clerks yet they were flying flags. The second issue that they had with the CDB was on the issue of the mandate. They felt that the CDB were straying into their exclusive domains of approving the County Integrated Development Plans. It was their view that such a forum should not be focussed on development, but on consultation and information sharing. I know that some of these matters are still being canvassed in court. However, why should we wait forever for the learned fellows to tell us what to do yet this is the House that enacts legislation? When Governor Wambora was elected the Chairperson of the Council of Governors (CoG), we had a meeting here. He came with all the Committee Chairpersons from the CoG, including Governor (Prof.) Anyang’-Nyong’o. If the House recalls, the first Senator who attempted to Chair a County Development Board meeting was the then Sen. (Prof.) Anyang’-Nyong’o. He went to Kisumu and called for a meeting, but he was met with violence both verbal and physical. He was told to go back to Nairobi. He was told we elected you to sit in Nairobi, but not to come here to chair a development meeting. Madam Deputy Speaker, when Governor (Prof.) Anyang’-Nyong’o was before us, we asked him how best we could restructure the law to ensure that there was a framework for consultation at the county level. The governors were unanimous that if we could strike out what they felt was offensive provisions of that legislation, they would have no problem convening a stakeholders’ forum at the county level. They cited the issue of leadership of the Board as well as the issue of the agenda of the Board and we have attempted to address that. Madam Deputy Speaker, we are proposing that the CLF shall comprise of the governor who shall be the chairperson and not the clerk. The Senator shall be the vice chairperson. When we were coming up with this amendment, there was a lot of thinking on whether we should make the governor and the Senator co-chairs. That invites a lot of problems. Madam Deputy Speaker, if you put two people who are elected separately at the same level, you may never be able to convene a meeting. I want to convince the House that even with a governor as the chairperson and a Senator as vice chairperson, we would still be able to achieve the objectives we want of ensuring that we have got a framework for consultation. The CLF shall also have all Members of the National Assembly from the county, including the Women Representative. It shall also have from the County Assembly the Speaker and the leadership of the assembly. In our feedback from public participation, the County Assemblies Forum (CAF) indicated that we should not include the chairs of finance and budget committees in the county assemblies because each county assembly has got a different configuration. Madam Deputy Speaker, that makes sense and that is an amendment we can allow. This forum will have the Chair of the County Public Service Board, the County Commissioner and the County Secretary as the secretary. The reason we have this"
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