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    "id": 1124489,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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        "legal_name": "Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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    "content": ". Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I also declare my interest, which is that part of my family and particularly my wife is Catholic. Therefore, I support this Petition. More importantly, the 2016 gazette notice must have been in the previous Commission chaired by Prof. Swazuri. I must say this frankly, that was a very bad Commission. We must call it out. It cannot be that they can revoke a title belonging to a church in a Gazette notice without notifying them. The National Land Commission Act requires that you issue a notice based on a complaint. On the face of it, Senator for Embu, my good friend, Sen. Ndwiga, you can consider that an illegal activity conducted by people who know the law, but misread it for ulterior motives. If they issued another title, for all intents and purposes, it is illegal. I hope the Committee that will handle this, the Committee on Land, Environment and Natural Resources chaired by Sen. Mwangi will get to this matter quickly. The second Commission that came into office is not the same as the first Commission. However, those ones are worst because they are not reporting to office, they are not working, they are afraid of jurisdiction and offices. It has come to pass that we now wonder why it was necessary to have them. Sen. Ndwiga, I would like to you to know that when I raised the question of historical injustices on the Floor of this Senate in the last Parliament, our neighbour House went and amended the jurisdiction of the NLC to the extent that the Commission is such a toothless bulldog. There is nothing they can do about illegal activity concerning public land. Remember, the title to the church was not public land. So, on what basis did they revoke the title of the Catholic church yet it is not public but private land? That is why I"
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