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"speaker_name": "Kiminini, FORD-K",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Chris Wamalwa",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. This Clause is very controversial. Maybe we should go back to the definition of the word “couple”. We have a case study in South America where some women do not want to get pregnant, but go and hire poor women to carry children for them. That is why Hon. Shamalla’s input, particularly the aspect of being certified by a medical doctor, is important. The person must be unable to conceive. That provision has been abused in both North and South America. A rich woman who does not want to get pregnant hires a poor woman. So, the issue of certification by a medical doctor to show…"
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