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    "id": 1125689,
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    "speaker_name": "Suba North, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Ms.) Odhiambo- Mabona",
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        "legal_name": "Millie Grace Akoth Odhiambo Mabona",
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    "content": " Hon. Temporary Deputy Chair, thank you for the opportunity. I do not have a problem with providing for a corporate body and for fining them, which is a good thing, but my only concern is in relation to sub-clause 2 where the Chair says “when an offense against this section is committed by a body corporate”. I have actually noticed that the problem is not even in the amendment by the Chair, but in the Bill. I was hoping the Chair could have tidied this up. The Chair has made several proposed amendments with penalties, the ones that Hon. Sankok has been complaining about. However, she has not proposed an amendment to sub-clause 2, which says that a person who commits an offense under sub-section (1) shall, upon conviction, be liable to a fine not exceeding Kshs500,000. This refers to offenses under this Act. So, it means that we are providing for two frameworks, one which provides for the specific penalties that the Chair has moved and this one provides for the Act in general. I do not know if it would be in order for me, as the sponsor of the Bill, to then move an amendment to (2), so that it synchronises with the amendments that the Chair has proposed. The amendment, which I can then put in writing would be in (2), that a person who commits an offense under subsection (1) and where no other penalty is provided under this Act, shall upon conviction be liable to a fine not exceeding… Otherwise, this provides a conflicting framework or my amendment could actually provide it."
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