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    "id": 1126961,
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    "speaker_name": "Kipipiri, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Amos Kimunya",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Amos Muhinga Kimunya",
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    "content": "I would want to be convinced that we are not talking of reopening Appropriations as we did without the framework of the Supplementary Appropriations Act. This is what I see happening through the backdoor. Like I said, we will have time for this and we can look at it together and see, what the rationale is. If it is by way of example, then we state it. However, in an example, you do not then put specific people. We can say this is the template of how it will be but without necessarily indicating the figures. The figures will change year in, year out. The Germans may want to find something now but their funding priorities might change in the next year. If you already put them in a template, we are basically saying we are expecting some money which is not guaranteed. So, I think that is the rational we need to talk about. We need to look at this Bill afresh, clean it up, then pass it. As we go into the new budgeting cycle, we will use the new law to have the monies, that is, the Ksh370 billion revenue allocation to counties. This looks like the figure that is being agreed upon. We should then say, this is the money that will go to conditional grants and this amount will go to this county and for this purpose. I have no problem with that. However, attempting to put figures in 2021/2022 Financial Year, then pass it within a law, we will basically be saying, that if Nyandarua County, for example, received less and we told them that Parliament has passed this Bill and they should have received a certain amount of money, they would ask for more money, yet you will not have appropriated it. Moreover, you will not even be sure where that money will come from. So, that is the spirit of my discussion on this issue. The generic part is good. It is only when we come to the numbers that I see an issue. Usually, it is said, the devil is in the detail. Those numbers could mean a lot if we do not take care or understand why they have been put there. In West Africa, they say, a toad does not jump in the daylight for nothing unless something is chasing it. So, we need to know what is chasing our toad to have these numbers coming in. With those remarks, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to support but with those reservations."
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