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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Nambale, ANC",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Sakwa Bunyasi",
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        "legal_name": "John Sakwa Bunyasi",
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    "content": "fridge because we had no electric power. We only got power after devolution. A fridge now runs. We do not have medicines but I hope one day they will be brought. I hope KEMSA at the national level and its equivalent in the counties will begin to function someday so that Madende Dispensary will have supply of medicines throughout the year – particularly medicines for children and expectant mothers, who are most vulnerable. We have a lot of weaknesses in the system that is otherwise good. Re-centralising anything would be taking us back to the dark ages. How can the National Government ever know what Madende Dispensary needs? How will they know the staffing needs of Madende Dispensary? That will not happen. We need to devolve primary healthcare services to the counties and insist, as we are doing now, through various legislations and policy options; that devolution goes down to the ward-level so that they, too, have access to resources and use them for betterment of the people. Corruption has become completely unholy to an extent that money stolen at the national level is exported. We hear it being in various places in the world. Money at the county level goes to markets within the counties. A new storey building of a chief officer comes up and the money circulates locally. It is not legal. We must stamp that out but let us not pretend that it is the only leakage in this Republic. If it was the only leakage, it would be only 10 per cent of the National Budget. Even if it all leaked, it would be 10 per cent of the Budget. The 90 per cent is where the big problems are. As it is, we should have zero-tolerance for any of the malpractices we have. I like the idea of grants going to the counties. Let us follow up the application of these funds through good oversight by our relevant institutions, and not just the County Assemblies. The County Assemblies are weak. In this Parliament, we have passed some ugly laws, and we have put aside some things that ought to have been brought up. Let us not be holier than thou at all. Let us regroup and completely stamp corruption out. We are headed in the right direction. That is why the countries ahead of us have followed. They have also not been spared from these issues. Let us go with them. We hear about such issues in India and even in China – which is completely intolerant to corruption. We hear about corruption in the United States of America (USA). It is not that I am sanctioning these issues. Let us realise that these are growing pains we should keep our eyes on at all times."
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