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    "id": 1127722,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Kathiani, WDM–K",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Robert Mbui",
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        "legal_name": "Robert Mbui",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to also comment on this issue of pensioners. Pensioners are retirees; mostly old people who have worked very hard all their lives to save some money for their old age. Interestingly, retirement age is known at the time of employment. So, it is not a surprise to the employer that someone has reached retirement age. From the date you are employed, based on your age, you can calculate to know the time you will be retiring. So, the problem really must be corruption and I think this is what this Bill is trying to cure. Those are people who sit on retirees and pensioners files and refuse to pay them until they part with some little money. It is very unfortunate! They seek money from people who already do not have it because they are not gainfully employed. So, it is important we deal with this the way Hon. Barasa has proposed. We give a timeline within which people must be paid. I am worried because, over the years, we have always had this problem in Kenya of people trying to get their money and it is delayed. Some of those old people, when they walk to those offices, they get annoyed and curse the officers. Maybe, that is the reason why corruption is such a big problem in this country? Maybe, we are a cursed nation by old people who have retired and have not been paid their money. Unfortunately, some die before they can lift the curses. So, it is important for us to sort this out as a country. Also, it is important when people are retiring; they get a little training on how to manage their money. By the time they go out there and receive a little pension money, they can continue living a comfortable life for the remaining years. A case in point is a colonel from the United States (US) who retired. After retirement, he started a very good franchise that is all over the world - the The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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