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    "id": 1133576,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Seme, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr.) James Nyikal",
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    "content": " Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, for example, on indigenous knowledge, the definitions we have here assume what we know of the environment. It does not take into consideration what we do. For example, in Kisii there are people who do brain surgery. That is indigenous knowledge. It would then even include “practiced”. I would then say “and practised”. When you then come to Cabinet Secretary, you are saying industry and leaving out research. In fact, it would be important because sometimes we may have Cabinet Secretaries, one who may be responsible in industry and another responsible for research. Where will this thing lie? What about research? So in my view, I do not see why we are leaving out research and just taking industry."
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