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    "content": "On Mr. Kiema Kilonzo’s remarks, its true that corruption should not be personalized or politicized. I would like to hear as much foot thumping as I heard the day Parliament was being opened. I said that we come from different political backgrounds and that is why the President is not the Prime Minister. He is perfectly in order to hold a different view from that of the Prime Minister. It is healthy. How do we talk about corruption when we just talk about the Office of the Prime Minister without identifying the individual in that office who is involved in corruption? Corrupt acts are committed by individuals. Therefore, they must be identified and named. I do not know how we can fight corruption without personalizing and even politicizing the issue. Even if they are politicians, you need to name them. That does not mean that you are politicizing it. You are just fighting corruption. You should go down the memory lane and look at the Goldenberg and the Anglo Leasing scandals. Also look at those who have been reigned in. So, you must look at the past in order to inform the future so that we can reform this country. I hold the view that corruption must be personalized and politicized if need be. That is the only way we can deal with it."
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