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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Chanzu",
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        "legal_name": "Yusuf Kifuma Chanzu",
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    "content": "support somebody because he is person from his tribe and then the following day, we are lamenting about it. Some of the views that have been expressed about Amb. Kiplagat in public could be true. But I am happy that the Minister had worked with Amb. Kiplagat. We are the same people who pass these things and then the following day, we deny. That is the highest level of corruption. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I think the President missed a lot of issues on corruption. He did not tell us what he intends to do about corruption. Parliament is being used to discipline people like Ministers who should be disciplined by the Executive. Last year, we had Motions in Parliament where we were trying to move Motions of no confidence in Ministers, which is actually the responsibility of the Executive, according to the Constitution. Why do we pay somebody a salary of Kshs2 million or Kshs3 million when he cannot take responsibility for that job? The reason why these reforms in this Parliament and I think in the Eighth Parliament and I was there; the Motion that came to Parliament was that the salary of the President should be increased so that people do not go to State House with briefcases. That is why the salary of the President became Kshs2 million. I do not know whether it is Kshs3 million but everything is free. I do not know how you value that because the motorcade and everything else are free. You can have many wives; they are all free, and the Government pays for it. I do not know how much it is. That is why Prof. Anyang’-Nyong’o brought that Motion that the President should be well paid so that there is no corruption. I do not think that the issue of briefcases which were going to State House is really the kind of corruption that we are talking about today in every sector. In fact, I never knew that there was corruption in the private sector. There is corruption everywhere. When we were becoming professionals after leaving university and in leadership, we were told that we should emulate our bosses. What am I going to emulate from some of the so-called Ministers? Is it learning how to steal? I think we must have tangible things that we must talk about."
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