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    "id": 1148696,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Suba North, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Ms.) Odhiambo-Mabona",
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        "legal_name": "Millie Grace Akoth Odhiambo Mabona",
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    "content": " We had some consultations with the Committee. Unfortunately, I did not have the opportunity to consult with them in relation to the issue of structure. The children sector has been facing a lot of challenges in conflict of laws and all that. What I see is that they are trying to bring some harmonisation. Perhaps, even as he is responding, maybe, he could just give an overview. In his view, what is the hierarchy? Apparently, you are removing the Director. What are the transitional arrangements for the current Director? What are the kinds of hierarchical arrangements that you are considering? It would be good to know. I hope the stakeholders are in agreement with this so that they do not say Parliament went beyond what they recommended, so that we do not create a crisis. I hope you have consulted with the stakeholders. I do not oppose the amendment, because, unfortunately, I did not have the benefit of having sat with the Committee when they were conducting public participation. However, it would be good to be informed. Hon. (Prof.) Jacqueline Oduol was a Secretary of Children Services and I have also been involved in the children’s sector. Whenever there was an issue, the stakeholders would come to the two of us to ask: Where were you when this was happening? So, since I was not in the public participation meetings, I hope the Committee took that into account. It will make the sector better and reduce conflict. Thank you."
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