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    "id": 1151272,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Dr.) Ali",
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    "content": "Therefore, there is no need to talk about corruption in this country. People are corrupt to the core. The only way you claim to fight corruption is to run after a policeman who took Kshs100 or 200 from a matatu. Mind you they have been on the road through a rainy night and his mum at home does not have anything to cook. On the other hand, when somebody steals billions of shillings, no action is taken. He will never be taken to jail. Some of them will be taken to court but because they have the means and the way the legal professions do things in this country, everybody will have to protect their client, even if they know that they are murderers and thieves. I am sorry, I am not referring to the lawyers here. This is common internationally but others at least think about it. They do not go beyond 10 per cent. Ours goes more than 50 per cent. So, how can this country ever develop? With the current debt burden, I do not know how we are going to pay."
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