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    "id": 1151867,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen (Dr.) Ali",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Dr. Ali Abdullahi Ibrahim",
        "slug": "ali-abdullahi-ibrahim"
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    "content": "management? People are saying this is the right time. We already have many laws which can be used to take care of this. Sen. Faki has said that we have a bad habit as a country and as a people. We do not even care where we dispose our waste. The normal ones forget about the other serious ones and the ones which are severe. We throw waste from our households anywhere and it rots in those dustbins. Look at the few dustbins that are in town. Look at what has been happening in this country for a long time. For example, if you go to Dandora Dumpsite, you will find chokoras and other people picking things to go and recycle but how do they look? When you look at the companies which are supposed to be collecting normal waste from households, how do the workers and the vehicles look like? We should not make it appear like that is not a proper business when those people doing the business are minting millions of shillings from the people they collect the waste from. That is just the simple normal waste from households. The people using those vehicles to collect waste and the vehicles are usually dirty. When they pass next to you, you feel like fainting. When you go to other places, the waste collectors have overalls and they are well protected. We do not care about our people or anything and we are talking about laws which will not help anybody. As far as I am concerned, this is not the right approach. We have to change our attitudes first. We should be aware of the fact that we have to clean our environment. In some areas, when you enter a house, it is very clean but outside there is dirt everywhere. We have that problem and I do not think that these laws will help anything. Everywhere you go is an eyesore. The people who collect garbage are usually dirty. So, this will not help. Look at our waterways. The few small streams that we have in Nairobi are all stinking and dirty. We have the NEMA, which is just a mammoth organisation which I do not know what it does. Why create another authority called Waste Management Authority, when the NEMA, with all the resources and what has been done cannot function for all that long? As far as I am concerned, this is just duplication and it might not be helpful. It is a waste of money because people want to create positons for themselves, so that--- My take is that there are issues coming up. Probably there are some international organisations that want to dump things here or an organisation is being created so that people do funny things. Madam Deputy Speaker, as a far as I am concerned, this Bill is of no consequence. As I have said, we have had several Bills. The Environment Management and Co-ordination Act, which provides for establishment of NEMA, should handle that. I do not see why we should create another Authority with many other people who will be employed when many bodies are collapsing because of lack of finances and what to do. As I have said, our waterways and streams are dirty. If you go to Athi River, you will see what has happened but we cannot manage that. If the NEMA cannot manage that, then what is the meaning of waste disposal? Organic waste can be used to create energy if people are properly educated. We need a lot of energy in this country. Biogas is not only generated from animal waste."
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