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    "id": 1153126,
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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Orengo",
    "speaker_title": "The Senate Minority Leader",
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        "legal_name": "Aggrey James Orengo",
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    "content": "months? When trouble came, they had to go and sort out their problems. President Kibaki was the first one to tell them to go and get back when they had sorted the problem. Some of them never sorted their problems. Who did President Kibaki love more than Hon. Mwiraria? I do not think there was anybody who was as close to President Kibaki as Hon. Mwiraria. That is why he was made the Minister for Finance because of his closeness to President Kibaki. President Kibaki was watching what was happening at the Treasury all the time. He needed a loyal friend. However, when Anglo-Leasing scandal was unmasked, Minister Mwiraia had to fight for his freedom in the courts. Unfortunately, he did so until his death. In fact, he died before conclusion of that case. We need leadership that loves institutions. The late bMboya said that a country is as strong as its institutions. Many leaders we have had before do not respect the institutions. They do not believe in the institution of Parliament and that Parliament can differ with the Executive. There is no part of the template of our work to always agree with the Executive, even if it has an overwhelming majority in the House. When we had a one-party system, that is when we had the most virulent opposition. We had people like J.M. Kariuki, George Anyona and Philomena Chelegat. Some of the Members here could not say things they used to say in the House. The late Martin Shikuku was the best of them all. People like Muliro could dare face the President that we did not get Independence to kill each other. When he was supporting the J.M. Kariuki Report, he differed with the Government. He was a Member of the Cabinet, but he differed with the Cabinet. That is how he ceased to be a Cabinet Minister. Nowadays people love Parliament because it is friendly than the Executive. A country cannot develop when Parliament does not play its role institutionally as required under the Constitution. You may win the day, but you may not have a great country in the end if you weaken Parliament. If you only want a system of courts that only makes decisions in support of the Executive, you can never have strong institutions. In fact, the greatest democracies, including the USA, have emerged because of strong legal systems. Some of the most important decisions in our courts were delivered in the early days during the presidency of Jefferson. I can see my learned friend from Nyamira County smiling. In the UK, where they had absolute monarchies, it is the system of courts, in their many divisions, that brought order in the realm. So, we must believe in strong institutions. I imagine having courts that whatever we do as the Executive or as Parliament--- Please continue being strong because if democracy dies, you will not have done something in honour of President Mwai Kibaki. There is a time when there was a rumour - it was not a rumour because later on it turned out to be true - when everybody in the first Kibaki’s Government wanted Amos Wako out as the Attorney-General. It was quite a fight. People were being approached to be recruited to that position. However, President Kibaki said he needed somebody who had learnt the ropes like Wako, who could be a true legal advisor. Whenever you The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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