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    "id": 1157074,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Suba North, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Ms.) Odhiambo-Mabona",
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        "legal_name": "Millie Grace Akoth Odhiambo Mabona",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker for giving me this opportunity to intervene. I apologise to my brother for interrupting. I did not wish to do so. There is an issue that I had raised with the Speaker informally, but I want to put it formally. Even as we are moving the Children Bill, I know that it is in the Departmental Committee of Labour and Social Welfare. There are also issues relating to it that ideally should be looked at by the Justice and Legal Affairs Committee (JLAC). I was wondering whether they could have a joint meeting. One of the reasons is because I have seen that my Bill on Child Justice has finally been gazetted, which is creating a different legal framework for children in conflict with the law when this one has a brief mention on children in conflict with the law. I think we will benefit from legal minds whether we should have that one Bill or whether we should have two separate Bills the way South Africa has, so that you have a legal framework that has a civil law for children and one that has criminal. When you have both disjunctive laws, then it means that one is likely to suffer. In this instance, it is the criminal that is suffering because it has very cursory mention. As I had indicated, I had made an informal request to the Speaker. So, I am making a formal request that the two committees sit together because my Bill on Child Justice was dealt with by JLAC, yet this one was dealt with by the Departmental Committee on Labour and Social Welfare. So, I did not have the benefit of appearing before the Departmental Committee on Labour and Social Welfare. I appeared before JLAC."
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