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    "id": 1159485,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1159485/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Gatanga, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Joseph Nduati",
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        "legal_name": "Joseph Nduati Ngugi",
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    "content": "I have looked at some of the proposals in the Bill and we need to polish them especially the membership of the Insurance Institute of Kenya. I congratulate Hon. Washiali for coming up with it. Clause 4 of the Bill is on membership of the Institute. Clause 4(2)(c) of the Bill talks about affiliate members, comprising the members who work in the insurance industry, but are not insurance professionals such as accountants, lawyers and members of other professional bodies. That will not be in order. Again, there is something which I can see here which is unique. Clause 4(2)(d) of the Bill says that the Insurance Institute of Kenya shall have corporate members, comprising both private and public institutions and organisations and includes companies, partnerships and other corporate bodies. I have never seen it. I have seen it for the first time. I can be wrong. I am a professional, but I have never seen it. I can be wrong. Maybe, I just concentrate on my professional body. We need to look at it. I do not think that a company or corporate organisation can be a member of a professional association. It has many other stakeholders. If you make it a member of that organisation and it has sweepers and other people in it, they can still perform what you are trying to cure. So, that is something which you need to address. There are many committees in the Bill which are not necessary. When you set up the Insurance Institute of Kenya, I know they will come up with many committees. So, there is no need of putting the Registration of Insurance Professionals Committee in the Bill. You have given them a lot of power which will be in conflict with the main Council. That is something which we need to address. The other thing is the Insurance Professionals Examinations Board. This is a task which we should leave to the Institute. There is no need of creating another body. You know that where we have such bodies, they are always fighting. There is conflict always. They are not well managed. So, it is better for the Institute to be in charge of everything, namely, registration, exams and discipline. Even the disciplinary committee should be part of the Institute. There is no need of setting up a separate body to regulate discipline. Otherwise, we will have problems. We will not manage the association well. Last but not least, we should look at the Third Schedule of the Bill which is on the chairman and vice-chairman of the Examinations Board. Clause 2 of the Third Schedule of the Bill says that they will be in office until they resign. It is good that you have given them a timeline to perform their duties. We are also given a timeline here which is five years. You cannot give the chairman and the vice-chairman unlimited time to perform the roles that you envisage here."
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