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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Orengo",
    "speaker_title": "The Senate Minority Leader",
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        "legal_name": "Aggrey James Orengo",
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    "content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, I equally want to take the position that for Parliament to be an institution that is effective, physical sittings are very important. There was time when the Houses of Parliament - the Commons - were bombed during the Second World War. Since the House of Commons has more than 500 Members, there was a suggestion that it should be rebuilt and expanded. Sir Winston Churchill refused. He said that the House normally has a sense of urgency and debate is more effective when the House is full. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have seen many times, when I walk into the Chamber, I find that I am alone with the most constant attendant in this Chamber, Sen. (Dr.) Musuruve. I end up making a point to an empty Chamber. The only person who has learnt how to talk in this Chamber in the absence of many other Senators is Sen. (Dr.) Musuruve, and I commend her for that. In order to have honest and true debate, we should be able to be present and interact on points of order. This is part of the debate that goes on. Even the court system have found out how to do virtual hearings quite effectively. However, nothing can ever replace a physical conduct of proceedings in court. I also believe that Parliament carrying out its legislative duty virtually can be effective. One thing that is slowly dying, that I constantly regret is that the galleries of these Parliaments are empty every day. If we turn virtual, even the delegations that want to come and see Parliament in operation, will come here and find poor Sen. (Dr.) Musuruve alone with the “Governor of Bungoma County”."
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