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    "id": 1161010,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Sakaja",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Johnson Arthur Sakaja",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, you know our Standing Orders say that a Senator must be responsible for making a statement of fact. That IBEC has the Deputy President, but it is also filled with governors. Now you can never cry more than the bereaved. It is a big shame to these governors because they all said - and you remember when we had these fights - that they were happy with that amount and that it is us who want more money to go to them. So, how would they have been overruled? You cannot blame the Deputy President because he is sitting there on behalf of the national Government. The national Government ideally would have wanted to haggle with these governors. However, the governors were all too happy to just sit around a table, have tea and mandazi and accept that amount. So, I think it is out of order to blame the Deputy President who, of course, cannot defend himself here for a decision that was made by the governors. They addressed press conferences thereafter. In fact, after that period they were sitting at State House led by Governor Oparanya and they were trying to tell their Senators to stop fighting for more money. Do you remember Governor Mutua speaking against Sen. (Dr.) Kabaka? Shame on those governors. Let us not shield the real culprits who are those governors because of politics. I do not know what favours they want from the national Government or what cases of theirs they do not want to be pushed. The Deputy President actually believes in devolution as far as I know. He believes in counties getting these resources. However, if you look at the structure of IBEC it is just the Deputy President, the Ministry of Finance and all these governors. Therefore, you cannot cry more than the bereaved and say I want to give you more money and the governors themselves do not want more money. How will that work?"
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