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    "id": 1173425,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1173425/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Kikuyu, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah",
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        "legal_name": "Anthony Kimani Ichung'Wah",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to oppose this particular Motion. I understand what the Leader of Majority Party is saying. I know where the Chair of the Budget and Appropriations Committee sits in this. The issue of public debt is not an issue that we ought to be justifying and appeasing ourselves. It is a burden we are laying on the shoulders of Kenyans. I heard His Excellency the President on Madaraka Day saying that debt is simply us utilising other people’s money. This is not money we are getting as a grant or a gift from other people. It is other nations’ taxpayers that are giving us money to invest in productive sectors of our economy and at the end of the day, use our taxpayers' money to repay. Therefore, as we lay more burden on Kenyans, as one of their representatives, I am obliged to object to the raising of the debt ceiling. It tells you that the Cabinet Secretary in charge of the National Treasury today is a man who clearly has no understanding of what he is doing. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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