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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, allow me to congratulate the Minister first for raising the issues of the pastoral communities. This is one of the most unique communities as per their way of life. For many years, this is a community that has not been looked at properly, but I am impressed that all its issues have been captured properly. This is first by recognising that pastoralism is a legitimate land use and productive system. He goes further to put some emphasis on regulating transactions in land in pastoral areas. There is only one thing that I want to raise as regards pastoral communities – the issue of giving grazing rights. It might be a question of interpretation or misinterpretation. When we come to the implementation, we have to be careful that we do not play into cultural practices or cultural interpretations of the issue of grazing rights by what it means in English. When a pastoralist talks about grazing rights, you have to understand that in pastoral tradition there are no boundaries. No wonder you will find pastoral communities clashing with agriculturalists in Isiolo, Meru, Ukambani, Voi and all over the country. We need, as a safeguard, some provision within this policy so that when we come to applying what is in this policy, then we can also safeguard certain interests of certain communities. This is so that at the end of day, we do not get back to the same situation of clashing all the time."
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