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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Lomenen",
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        "legal_name": "James Lomenen Ekomwa",
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    "content": "I, therefore, wonder where they will get land before they even get the oil we are talking about? We have never settled the issue of land because it is communally owned. As Sen. Cheptumo has said, it is true that we do not even have at least two title deeds in Turkana County. So, how do we process the issue of compensation? The land that is there is used for grazing, geothermal and mining of gold and very important minerals. Even before we talk about LAPSSET, we have not handled the issues that are so pertinent. Where do we take the livestock and the people who are living on the land because they have stayed there for centuries? Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we are still behind. There are people who are taking advantage of marginalised communities. Any time they talk about “marginalised”, there are people who then become marginalised. They say they qualify as “marginalised”. For example, everybody wants to qualify for the Equalization Fund. If there was money meant for HIV or for people with disability, they also would want to qualify. This is because it is just interest and not being objective about the problems people are facing. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, finally, I want to tell my brother, the Senator for Samburu that this issue is very serious. Just like Sen. Cheptumo has said, we have to stand firm and make sure that our people benefit. They should receive justice and get what they deserve. If we do not do that, we will be in hell. We will not benefit from this LAPSSET. I agree with my sister Sen. Dullo. We expected the headquarters to be in Isiolo, Lamu or maybe Turkana where the oil is found, but it is contrary to that. It is a paradox. That means this business is not for these counties. They should go to counties that are benefiting and not the counties that have been mentioned because they do not benefit. Thank you."
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