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    "id": 1180539,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Suba North, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona",
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    "content": "I would also want to indicate that there is also a constitutional issue. You cannot force Kenyans to save; people save voluntarily. I spoke to one of the Members informally. I do not want to mention who that Member is because he is a supporter of this Fund. He said, Kenyans can only save voluntarily. How do you force people to save? That is unconstitutional. You cannot force people to save. If you want to give people money, give them without forcing them to save. When you take little money here and there from people, where will they get the energy and resources to chase their Ksh150 that has been saved. The money they will use in terms of the credit is too much money. In conclusion I want to quote one of the Members that I saw online who raised an issue of cohesiveness in terms of government policy. I also want to quote somebody called Sankei Saitoti who today said that there is something with this Kenya Kwanza Government. A ban is imposed by the Ministry of Interior, lifted by Public Service Ministry; the Trade Cabinet Secretary is talking of maize while the Cabinet Secretary for Agriculture is silent; the Sports Cabinet Secretary is commissioning exams while Kenya Sevens are fundraising. Clowns all over. I think before we get here where we are trying to come up with regulations and all, can this Government first have cohesion in terms of its own policy and the duties of Cabinet Secretaries? You cannot have people popping up like popcorns. Cabinet Secretary in charge of Labour is talking about sports, very soon you will be hearing another Cabinet Secretary that is not in charge of this Fund talking to us about it and saying their own things. I want to tell Hon. Ichung’wah that I am glad to learn that Hon. Mbadi is his senior and I am also a senior to your Member of Parliament who is moving these regulations in law because I am seeing the Certified Public Accountants (CPAs) are proud today telling us they are accountants. I am also a lawyer and I am senior to your lawyer. Thank you and with those few remarks I oppose."
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