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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mungatana, MGH",
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    "content": "with counties. This habit has developed because the National Treasury has encouraged it. There has been resistance from the national Government, to let go. They have created a mentality, that before you negotiate with Tana River County, you must go to Nairobi and speak to them, so that whatever is given must also be supported by the National Treasury. This mentality must change. We have developed county governments. We are now living in the third tier since the first devolution. County governments entities must be respected. The Senate can encourage development partners to develop a habit of confidently discussing with our county governments. We should give them space because Section 38 of the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act, allows county governments to discuss grants and loans with development partners. In future, this should be the way forward."
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