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    "id": 1197399,
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    "speaker_name": "Endebess, UDA",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose",
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    "content": "Having been an examiner in the past, I have seen students come before examiners. At times, they get blackouts because of fear of the unknown. As a good examiner, you tell the student to have a seat, you give them a cup of tea or a glass of water, allow them to rest and then examine them. You will find that they are able to pass. I think she was not given adequate time. I watched the interview on 19th October 2022, at 2.30 p.m. The Committee continued pumping questions to her. As a doctor, the Committee should have even given her time to rest and then later assess her. How can somebody who has an Anthropology Degree, a master’s degree and has been in a senior position of management end up with an observation that she does not demonstrate knowledge of topical, administrative and technical issues? If any of you were to appear before me for questions on medical issues, none of you would have knowledge of topical, administrative and technical issues. This lady deserves to be given a second chance. On the dissenting report by the minority on Hon. Aisha Jumwa, I was just reading Case No.411 and it said that the family has actually withdrawn the murder case against her. I think the DPP is in the process of having that case withdrawn. So, the allegations that we are making here against Hon. Aisha are overtaken by events. I was also a Member of this House when she was also cleared by all agencies to contest as a governor for Kilifi County before elections. What if she had succeeded to be a governor because she almost became one? She would now be serving in Kilifi County. I, therefore, do not see merit in the argument that she is not fit to be a cabinet secretary. Similarly, this applies to Hon. Mithika Linturi. He was also, contesting to be a governor for Meru. If he had succeeded, he would be a governor now. Let the due process of law take effect. When you refer to the case of the former administration in which a list was read in this House in March, 2015; many of those cabinet secretaries were victims of circumstances. Up to today, none of them has been taken to a court of law and proved to be guilty of any offence that were read in this House. At times, we should not use the law to demonise or use our positions to gag or destroy other people’s careers. This House should not be used to destroy anybody’s career and more so, Ms. Peninah Malonza. When I bring an amendment on her, I urge you, to support it. We cannot bring it now because Article 56(2), in the opinion of the Speaker, says:”You cannot negate a Motion that has been put.” We, therefore, need to reject the Motion by the Committee and bring an approval for Ms. Peninah Malonza. With those few remarks, I support with amendments."
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