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    "id": 1198285,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1198285/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Dr.) Oburu",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 194,
        "legal_name": "Oburu Ngona Odinga",
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    "content": "I extend the same to our own Parliamentarians. Some people work very hard. That is why one of the Senators said that it is very difficult to be a Member of the PAC or PIC. It is difficult because some people fight very hard to be Members. It is not to serve the public or the interest of our counties, but because all those ‘fat’ boys will come around looking for our Senators to see they can compromise them, so that the truth does not come out. There are cases that come from the Auditor-General’s report. Some queries are caused by laziness of officers in providing information to the auditors. Sometimes, they waste a lot of Parliament’s time because they will eventually provide it to the auditors. When they are summoned to appear, the information would have already been provided to the auditors to their satisfaction. However, there are other clear cases of fraud, which come before Parliament. My experience with Uganda is that whenever the PAC or PIC Committee sits, there is also a Criminal Investigation Department (CID) officer. This is so that any information of a criminal nature that is gathered is used to pin down the criminal. Our Parliament is a bit lenient, but even if we do not do that ---"
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