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    "id": 120346,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/120346/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Kajwang",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister of State for Immigration and Registration of Persons",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 164,
        "legal_name": "Gerald Otieno Kajwang",
        "slug": "otieno-kajwang"
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    "content": "It is Mwalimu Nyerere who, at one time said that, if you want to be toppled from a Government, let your people go hungry. If you really want to be overthrown, then try to let your people sleep without food. And because I am in the Government, I am very sensitive to this idea. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, if you look at the recent history, the Soviet Empire collapsed because they could not feed their people until America brought them food and started to subsidize their own heating for their homes. That is when it collapsed. It was so weak that it could not control very little republics that ran away from the federation. But the same Mwalimu Nyerere went to see Reagan to borrow food and Reagan told him that he does not have any maize. That the only maize he had was for his horses. Nyerere told him: “You know, even that one of horses is good enough for my people.” But Reagan told him: “I am not going to give you maize for horses. What I will do is, I will give you two farmers from California.” California is a desert like most parts of Kenya. Nyerere told him: “You, Reagan, you came to politics the other day, you do not know what I am talking about. If you do not have any maize to give me, I am going away.” But what he was telling him was that, you can revolutionize agriculture in your own country and produce sufficient food to feed your people. But Nyerere did not take it"
}