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    "id": 1213901,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1213901/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Karachuonyo, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Adipo Okuome",
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    "content": "than the individual borrowing. If we keep on borrowing in the local market, certainly, the local businesses will suffer. We have to do something. One thing which has been said before by my colleagues is that, we really need to know what this total debt accumulated is composed of. We need a breakdown per country or per company so that we can analyse and know the genuineness of those foreign currencies. We also need to do the same with local borrowing, because that is when we can know whether we are paying for what we ought to. We are having a big burden of paying this, and it will go on to our children and children’s children, yet they are not supposed to be the ones to pay. On pension, it is sad when we hear that somebody has lived for almost 150 years, and we are paying pension for him. Such a person definitely is not existing. While I mention that, I see that Kenyans themselves suffer a lot because when they retire, it takes several months before they even begin getting their pension. We should ask the Government to collect all the data on the persons who are about to retire early enough so that, by the time they are retiring, they should do so by going home with their pension. My time is over but I wish I had…"
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