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    "id": 1213914,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Kisumu East, Independent",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Shakeel Shabbir",
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        "legal_name": "Ahmed Shakeel Shabbir Ahmed",
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    "content": "me one and a half hours to get a basic report for 2018, which was full of gaps. They said the report is public and anyone could get it, but that is false. Under the Public Finance Management Act, there is a Public Debt Management Office. Every year, the National Treasury has to give authority for the office to operate. In Britain, there is an autonomous public debt office. Here, the office is hidden in a corner and not recognised. The officers just waste time. In 2021, the National Treasury made a promise to us on payment of expensive commercial loans. I think you might remember that promise. We have short-term and long-term loans which are so costly. We raised the debt limit under a lot of pressure. The Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury lied with a straight face. We nearly impeached him. He totally misled the House. The National Treasury takes the Public Debt Management Office as a joke. We do not have a debt management strategy. The one that is there has been thrown into the dustbin. There is no policy. There is nothing. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I urge you to give me one extra minute."
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