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    "id": 1218885,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Nominated, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. John Mbadi",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "John Mbadi Ng'ong'o",
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    "content": " Hon. Speaker, thank you for granting me this opportunity to contribute. There is a matter of concern that may require your intervention, in terms of giving direction regarding public Petitions. I am aware that Standing Order 208A gives the responsibility of public Petitions to the Public Petitions Committee. However, we need to be clear on the extent to which the public Petitions can be dealt with in a way that it does not interfere with the functions and responsibilities of other committees. I have a case in point. This is something that is of public information today. There was a public Petition that came from one, Stephen Mutoro, regarding the expenditures towards the tail end of the previous regime. That matter was actually committed to the Public Petitions Committee. However, my concern is with the reported case of how this matter is being handled. Why do I raise it with you, Hon. Speaker? Standing Order 205 is on the functions and responsibilities that are assigned to the Committee I chair, Public Accounts Committee (PAC). Standing Order 205(2) says that the PAC shall be responsible for the examination of the accounts showing the appropriations of the sum voted by the House to meet the public expenditure and of such other accounts laid before the House as the Committee may think fit. Hon. Speaker, my concern here is that the Public Petitions Committee will deal with this matter. I can see they have already started interrogating the expenditure - who was liable, who was responsible and how the money was given out. They may end up giving a report to this House with recommendations and then we dispose of it. Then, the Office of the Auditor- General will audit these expenditures. Once the audit is done, the report is laid on the table of the House and will be seized of by PAC. In this case, we will again look at these accounts, summon witnesses and get information. We may end up arriving at a different resolution from the Public Petitions Committee. I have two questions. There are chances that this House may end up with two different or contrasting positions on the same matter. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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