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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Kingi",
    "speaker_title": "The Speaker",
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    "content": " Sen. Madzayo, are you teaching the Chair how to preside over this House? Sen. Madzayo, I can rule on any point of order individually. I do not have to rely on other points of order for you to get a ruling on your point of order. The mere fact that I am going to rule on yours does not mean that after I am done with the ruling. I can still give Sen. Sifuna a chance to rise on a point of order. Therefore, the opportunity to stand on points of order is not lost. Hon. Senators, allow me to just make a very short ruling on the point of order by the Senate Minority Leader. Hon. Senators, we have been in this House on this particular matter a number of times. The last time we agreed that because there was a court order, we abide by the court order until the matter that is before the tribunal is heard and determined; the HANSARD can bear me witness. That was the final ruling of the Chair on this particular matter. Today, the Senate Minority Leader, standing on a point of order, has indicated that, that particular matter has since been determined. Therefore, the Chair is now free to proceed and make the Communication on the leadership changes in the Minority side. Hon. Senators, I want to state this: He who alleges, proves. That is straight law. Sen. Sifuna, you are aware of that principle and the retired Judge is also fully aware of that principle in law. I had hoped that the Senate Minority Leader, while prosecuting his point of order, will table either the ruling or the order, indicating clearly, that the matter has since been dispensed with. You have said that all Kenyans are aware that this matter has been dispensed with, but from where I sit, I am not aware. Where I sit, I do not go by rumours, newspaper cuttings or news on Television (TV). The only thing that this Chair can hold as proof that indeed that matter has been dispensed with is when either the order is served upon my office or at least at the very least, Senate Minority Leader, you table the ruling or the order. When that is done, then I will move to make that Communication. In the absence of the order served upon the Office of the Speaker or the Senate Minority Leader tabling a ruling on the effect that this matter has been determined in the manner that the Senate Minority Leader has said, I am afraid the Chair may not be able to act on that point of order and proceed to make a ruling."
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