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    "id": 1224797,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1224797/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Seme, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal",
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    "content": "I have had the experience that whenever the private sector gets to work side-by-side with the public sector, the public sector loses out. There was a time Kenyatta National Hospital (KNH) produced its intravenous fluids and had a production unit. However, it was argued that that was not its mandate. That its mandate is providing treatment to people. That unit was closed down and the hospital went back to purchasing from outside, which is too expensive. When there was an attempt to go back to producing, the private sector sabotaged it. The same was the case with the supply of oxygen until the outbreak of COVID-19, that is when people realised the importance. When it comes to dealing with the private sector, we have to be careful even though we have Public-Private Agreements. In my view, the issue is IPPs, the PPAs, and the structuring of the three organs that produce power. Unless we look at that, we are not going to solve anything."
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