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    "id": 1228575,
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    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Dr.) Oburu",
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        "legal_name": "Oburu Ngona Odinga",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I also stand to support the Petition by Sen. Cherargei, Senator for Nandi County. I knew Hon. Jean Marie Seroney personally. He was a young astute lawyer, who represented not only Kenyans, but also his people very effectively in Parliament. The law which detained Hon. Jean Marie Seroney was passed in this Parliament. It was called detention without trial. Many Members spoke passionately in support of it. One of the people who spoke passionately in support of that law was my own father, the late Hon. Jaramogi Oginga Odinga. They said that that law was meant to deal with the shifta menace in Northern Kenya, and that innocent Kenyans needed not to fear anything about it. However, before long, many people who had spoken passionately about it, including my own father, became the victims of the same law. Mr. Speaker, Sir, that Statement which Sen. (Dr.) Boni Khalwale has quoted, which put hon. Seroney in trouble, was made by the late hon. Martin Shikuku. He stated that they wanted to kill Parliament the same way they killed Kenya African National Union (KANU). The leader of Government business stood up to state that it was a very serious statement and the Hon. Shikuku must substantiate. Hon. Seroney was seated in the Chair as the Speaker at that time. He said that one cannot be called upon to substantiate the obvious. That Statement alone put him in a lot of trouble. In fact, they had to hole themselves at the library here in Parliament because the laws did not allow police to come in and arrest Members. The Police Commissioner then was known as Mr. Hinga. He refused to send police to storm Parliament to arrest them. However, finally the authorities that be said that even if they are in the wombs of their mothers, they were to be removed and taken away. Indeed, they were taken away. When my father was arrested in 1969 and was still being held under house arrest in Kisumu County, one of the parliamentarians here stated that we should not have two"
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