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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mungatana, MGH",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I support this Bill as moved. The reason is that the structure in which the Bill has been presented is talking about National Treasury figures. I honour the thinking that it is we who must give the decision on how much the national Government and county governments should get. When the National Treasury speaks, we need to listen because they are speaking from facts and figures. This is where my first proposal lies. We are coming too late in the game. These figures of Kshs385 billion that the National Treasury proposes to be the proper figures as opposed to what our Committee thinks, are figures that were developed by people who work in the National Treasury. We must not forget that is a National Treasury. We will have to have a solution to have two divisions within that National Treasury and the County Treasury. If we do that, then the County Treasury which will be housed there, will be manning and seeing what is happening when figures are being developed. Previous speakers and colleagues have said that our governors have been spending time in Nairobi City County, being converted into beggars and looking for money to be disbursed. If we have two treasuries, one dedicated to disbursement of the national Government and the other one dedicated to county government funds, governors and County Executive Committee Members (CECMs) in charge of Finance will never have to come to Nairobi City County. This is because, if the money is received and it is time to disburse, we have two consolidated funds. One of them will be dedicated to counties in"
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