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    "speaker_name": "Tharaka, UDA",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. George Murugara",
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    "content": " Alright. I will get to it. I am sorry about that. The nominee was referred to this House by His Excellency the President, and the matter was referred to the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs by the Hon. Speaker. We held hearings as required by law. Dr. David Adang Oginde appeared before us and we conducted a vetting exercise in the pre-appointment hearing. We have prepared a detailed Report, which we have tabled before the House. It was tabled yesterday and I believe Members have had occasion to go through it. In summary, at the vetting hearing of this nominee, it came out clearly that the nominee was suitable to be appointed as the Chairperson of the EACC. When we posed questions on his academic suitability, he proved to us that he had the requisite academic qualifications. When it came to his reaction towards being appointed as the Chairperson of this Commission, he demonstrated to us that he had a passion for fighting corruption. In fact, he took us through what he referred to as cultural change – that for the country to embrace the war against corruption, we need to have a cultural change. We listened to him and with his religious background in mind, we thought that it may have been more of a sermon than an expression of what he would do. At the end of the day, however, we were convinced that his idea of cultural change was one of his strongest points as regards the fight against corruption. As a country, we must have a cultural change towards how we deal with cases of corruption, and how we instil moral values in our children at a young age as regards corruption. We also asked him what else he would do, especially in keeping the Commission together because in the past, we have seen chairpersons having direct conflicts with chief executive officers of the Commission and, as a result, in some circumstances, the Commission had to be terminated prematurely because of those conflicts, he confirmed to us that he has headed one of the biggest churches in Nairobi – Christ is the Answer Ministries (CITAM). He demonstrated to us that he is able to keep people together because he had all manner of people under him and he was able to serve them well. We were convinced that he will take care of this Commission as the Chairperson, and offer leadership. He was able to distinguish to us that commissioners offer leadership to the Commission, while the CEO and his employees execute the mandate conferred by law as far as fighting graft is concerned. We retreated to come up with this Report. We read media reports that there was a disagreement, which I kept on saying was fiction. It was a figment of the imagination of some members of the media because our Report was agreed upon unanimously. Most Members of the Committee who were present appended their signatures to this Report to confirm their approval. There were other extraneous issues that were raised, which we did not consider, because it is not the work of this Committee to go on a fishing expedition as regards matters that are not before it. There were no affidavits that were sworn in opposition to his appointment. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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