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    "id": 1235513,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Kingi",
    "speaker_title": "The Speaker",
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    "content": " Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, why do you want to walk a long journey yet you can actually summon NLC at the Committee level? Why do you want to tell the CS to go back to the Chief Cabinet Secretary (CCS), have a tripeptide meeting with the NLC, craft a response then come back here whereas, under Standing Orders, the Select Committee on Lands, Environment and Natural Resources of this House can tomorrow summon NLC and get the information that is required? Mind you, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, the big problem here is that these commissions are independent constitutionally. These are constitutional offices and they have some kind of independence. To what extent they can be answerable to the Ministry? If they flex that independence, then there is very little that the Ministry can do. However, in this House, nobody can show that kind of independence. Everybody is answerable to this House and that is why it is easier for this House to summon NLC and still get all this information. The NLC is not answerable to the CCS. If they flex that kind of independence, the CCS will come here and say the very same thing that the CS has said. So then, why do we want to go that route? Let the Committee summon NLC and let NLC respond and provide answers to the Questions that the hon. Sen. Dullo, has actually asked. I think the Hon. CS has been very candid. Immediately this matter came to me, he drew the attention of NLC. We expected NLC to have given all the information to the CS for him to read out today. They decided not to corporate with the Ministry because of that issue of independence."
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