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    "speaker_name": "Seme, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I was the second person in this Chamber. I put my card in early. Thank you very much for giving me this opportunity. This is a national calamity and issue. The people who have died are not just from Lamu or Malindi, but from across the country, even as far as Siaya. Let me start by sending my condolences to these families. We have to look at three issues. First, are mental issues and the mental status of the people who do these things. Second, are the security measures that we should put in place as a country. There is also the legal framework under which churches work. Those are the areas that we should look at. The people doing these things are not pastors, even if they go by the name “pastors”. They have personality disorders. Most of them are psychopaths. They are extremely intelligent and manipulative. This is not only happening in Kenya. There was a case in the United States of America, which somebody was talking about, where 900 people died. Also, in Uganda, over 700 people died. These people device ways through which their followers die. The victims are vulnerable. The perpetrators use a process of indoctrination and mass hypnosis, so that even if you found these people just before their deaths, unless you get rid of the masterminds, the victims will follow them and do whatever they are asked to do. That is the situation we are in. In the American case, they were given drinks and they prayed as they took the drinks to die. In the Ugandan one, they all prayed as they went into church and set it ablaze. They do not even want to be removed from these situations. These psychopaths have to be dealt with. They pick vulnerable people. It has nothing to do with wealth or education. They pick mentally vulnerable people. When people experience severe psychological issues, they become more vulnerable and have to be protected. There is a high prevalence of mental illness in our country and as such, more people become vulnerable to such opportunists. The second issue we should look at is our security systems. Why can such people not be identified early enough? Back in 2017, a children’s officer noticed that children in this region were not being taken to hospital for treatment. That is normally very common. The masterminds detach you from all support systems. The police were aware and nothing was done about that situation. Some of the victims were reported missing. Why is it that when people are reported missing or when they die in this country, nobody takes keen interest to investigate and find out what happened? If these issues had been thoroughly looked into, we The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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