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    "id": 1236426,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mandago",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Kiplagat Jackson Mandago",
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    "content": "This interference of IFMIS is not something that just started yesterday. There has been serious interference with IFMIS. Also, IFMIS has been used to deny counties funds by making sure that periodically and when it is convenient, IFMIS is not working. Mr. Speaker, Sir, late payments have been made in IFMIS without any services for goods being rendered because of the interference and the absolute access of IFMIS by the officers in the National Treasury. It is unfortunate that counties have been forced to use that system to the detriment of service delivery in counties. When funds are allocated to counties, it is up to counties to manage their own procurement processes and pay for the goods and services that have been delivered within the scheduled time. However, because the National Treasury controls IFMIS, they determine when you access and when IFMIS is online or offline. Services in the counties have been derailed because of this system. It is, therefore, imperative that the Committee that is going to investigate this allegation makes sure that they go deeper into it. If it were possible, there is need for forensic audits of this IFMIS system and the payments that have been made particularly towards the run-up to the general election. This system was re-engineered in less than seven years at a cost of more than almost Kshs10 billion. With Kshs10 billion, you can acquire a more robust modern system that can handle the financial transactions of this country for the entire national Government and county governments. Most importantly, county governments must be given proper access and they must have the permission to authorize treasury officers whenever they need to access, particularly the modules that are being run by county governments. The IFMIS has been used to make fraudulent payments in the past. Therefore, there is need for the Committee that is going to investigate this matter to make sure that they get deeper into this matter with a view of making IFMIS efficient and allow counties to be in charge of the transactions that go through IFMIS. I, therefore, beg to support that Statement. I thank you."
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