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    "id": 1236629,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Cheptumo",
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        "legal_name": "Cheptumo William Kipkiror",
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    "content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to support this Motion. As I do so, I wish to state that for all the time I have lived in this country, I have not witnessed the kind of situation which we have seen in Kilifi. It is now upon this House. Mr. Speaker, Sir, Article 8 of the Constitution states that there shall be no state religion. It means, all our religions enjoy similar status before our laws. However, this area has been abused a lot by those who have been trained to be pastors or bishops. Mr. Speaker, Sir, every Member of this House is a member of a particular religion or church. We believe so much in what our spiritual fathers, bishops and pastors preach to us. It is because of this that a lot of our people, like the case in Kilifi, have been subjected to this kind of torture and killings. Mr. Speaker, Sir, No. (iv) and (v) of the terms of reference for this Committee speak to a situation where we need to come up with a legislative or legal framework, which will then help the country and this House in regulating these churches, so that we can make it stringent and difficult for anybody who wants to be a pastor or own a church."
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