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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Lessonet",
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        "legal_name": "Moses Lessonet",
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    "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, while I was contributing, I mentioned that a high number of Ministers implies that you must have a similar number of Permanent Secretaries. At this special time where we have the National Accord, we must have an equal number of other officers. We have even seen others going an extra set and appointing officers referred to as Chiefs of Staff. You can see what the current scenario entails to this country. I am very sure that if we pass this Bill and have 24 Ministries, this country will save every financial year, in my view, not less than Kshs10 billion which would have otherwise gone to travel expenses for these extra Ministers, Permanent Secretaries and Chiefs of Staff. You will realise that their costs are actually irrelevant to our people. We, as country, must truly support a maximum of 24 Ministers. A huge country like United States of America, the most powerful country in the world, has only 15 Ministers. How can a poor country like ours afford more than 15 Ministers? We cannot afford more than 15 Ministers."
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