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    "id": 125886,
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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Sirma",
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        "legal_name": "Simon Saimanga Lesirma",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I stand here to support the Motion as amended. First and foremost, I would like to inform the House that famine never started yesterday with the human settlement in the Mau Forest Complex. Famine was there in 1933 in our place. It killed many people. In 1943, we even moved from our original homes to other places as a result of famine. We should accept that this is a global phenomenon but not because of a particular place. As I stand to support this Motion as amended, I wish to take great exception to 2003/2004 when Ministers of the Government declared title deeds mere papers. That was the genesis of the problem that we have in this country. That is when witch-hunting started. The forceful eviction of people without due process of law in 2005 was a culmination of the whole process of fighting people’s rights. Kenyans have a Constitution. Unless we are going to respect this Constitution, it is uncalled for, for people to rubbish property. There are many ways of dealing with the Mau issue. It cannot only be dealt with through evictions. I know that is one of the key ones but we have scientists and land use planners who can give us other methods of using our farms to achieve the same objectives. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the rights of people cannot be legislated to confine them to certain areas. We cannot confine certain people into a box or a corner and tell them that they are the wrong people. The intention of reclaiming the Mau Forest should be done so that we can get water. We want this thing to be done correctly without any problem. We should follow the Constitution. I beg to support."
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