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    "speaker_name": "Molo, UDA",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Kimani Kuria",
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    "content": " Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 40 of the Bill be amended in the proposed sub-section (6)- (a) by deleting the words “commits an offence, if that person” and substituting therefor the word “who”; (b) in paragraph (b) by deleting the words “is in possession of” and substituting therefor the words “knowingly is in possession of”; (c) in paragraph (e) by deleting the words “is in possession of” and substituting therefor the words “knowingly is in possession of”; (d) in paragraph (f) by deleting the words “is in possession of” and substituting therefor the words “knowingly is in possession of”; (e) by inserting the words “commits an offence” immediately after paragraph (g). This is where there was proposed punishments and fines when you deal with excise stamps. We have cleaned it up to only allow those offences relating to excisable stamps such that those that will attract criminal liability are those people that have a criminal mind. My legal friends told me it is called mens rea. So, in the normal dealing of excisable stamps, if you just destroyed unknowingly without having a criminal mind, then you have not committed any offence."
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