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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mumma",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Majority Leader and Sen. Methu are speaking loudly and interfering. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I believe the Committee did its best in this matter. I see the debate is taking the model of sides - the Majority versus the Minority. However, in the Committee, we were able to canvass these issues very objectively. It was a difficult decision arriving at the verdict we arrived at. I would like to tell this House that it could have gone either way. Mr. Speaker, Sir, of the two charges that were given, there were sub-allegations per charge and some allegations were proven while other allegations were not. For those who watched and for the public or Kenyan citizen who watched, you know that the Deputy Governor admitted to some of the allegations. So, when you look at the threshold at Section 33(6) on what we are supposed to report as a Select Committee, we are supposed to bring a report indicating whether any of those allegations were substantiated and that is what we have reported before this House. I support my Chair in urging the House that beyond just looking at this as a political issue of the deputy governor, governor or any other, we need, as a Senate, to bring our mind to the issue of how we can get devolution to work well by ensuring we have clarity around issues of relationships between the two top officers within counties. The procurement laws are very clear and have ensured that the process is insulated against interference. Nonetheless, we were able to find the evidence that there were attempts to, actually, interfere with procurement processes. Mr. Speaker, Sir, in fact, in one instance, we found that the Deputy Governor as Chair of a taskforce wrote directly giving a list of people to be paid bills which is a protocol that is not provided for under the Public Finance Management Act (PFMA). So, we are speaking about serious issues. The Deputy Governor was in charge of the finances as he puts it himself but he did nothing in terms of showing us one policy that he had put in place."
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