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    "id": 1263886,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1263886/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Seme, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal",
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    "content": "I have seen all the presidents of Kenya. The late Mzee Kenyatta died when I was already a doctor. I have not seen any of them who respected science and professionalism like President Kibaki. Once the technical people convinced him, no politician would change his mind. He would just cut short the argument and say: ‘‘ Wacha tufanye vile huyu anasema. Hawa ndiowanajua. Wacha tufanye hivyo. Twende tunywe chai .’’ That argument was closed. Another bit of history of President Moi and the ozone was Dr. Stone. If some of you may remember, Dr. Stone was not a doctor, but a fake person. He came to Kenya and was using ozone to treat virtually anything, including HIV/AIDS and arthritis. He was running ozone through people’s system using machines. I had the difficult task of convincing the Government that, that person was fake. I do not want to get into the investigations that we did all the way o where he came from. But, again, he did that because of what ozone does. He was giving people what was thought to be relief, but eventually they were dying."
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