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    "id": 126623,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mrs. Shebesh",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Rachel Wambui Shebesh",
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    "content": "I will attempt to bring this debate to another level. The debate has revolved around the political intrigues and competition for too long. Unfortunately, it is even finding its way into party politics. However, the level of debate for us should really be: What is the best we want out of the conservation of Mau, relocation of the people who live in Mau and eventually, conserving the environment for our country? Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have heard people speak about the speed at which this issue is moving. As a Member of the Pan-African Parliament, who is also privileged to chair the Parliamentarians Association that deals with issues of climate change in Africa, and that will lead parliamentarians to negotiate at Copenhagen for the African common position, we have until December to get our act together during the 15th meeting to be able to get compensation from donors. That is the bottom line. That is what we need to understand and hear. Even as we speak to donors to give us Kshs30 billion, if we go to Copenhagen without clearly saying what we will do towards conservation of our forests, we will be ignored and we will not be taken seriously. That is the first reason we should act with speed. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we know that Africa is using afforestation in this continent as the main negotiating tool. If we are not aware of that, then we should be aware. We should be aware that Africa, of which Kenya is privileged to be one of the negotiators, will take a position of afforestation as being a component of the Western world paying it for polluting the environment. This is because, as you know, the West has contributed 97 per cent of the carbon gases that have caused the climate change problem that we have."
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