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    "id": 1269160,
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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mandago",
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        "legal_name": "Kiplagat Jackson Mandago",
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    "content": "Anyway, he has made his point. I was just trying to emphasise that some of the things we see in the counties might not be their making. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, it is good that my colleague Senator for Mandera is the Chairperson of the Committee on Finance and Budget. Regarding the issue of recurrent expenditure, there is need to review the accounting and reporting standards. If we remove personal emoluments, some of the recurrent expenditures are development in nature. For example, in the counties, procurement of drugs and non- pharmaceuticals are recurrent expenditure. Training and the fuel you use in building roads using county owned equipment are recurrent expenditures. Therefore, it suffices to say that there is need to reclassify recurrent expenditures, so that we have the correct view of the spending in the counties. We are not saying that counties are doing 100 per cent. There are issues we need to address as a Senate. I agree with the Senate Majority Leader that in our quest of oversight, we must come up with a proper mechanism where every Senator will have a framework for oversighting activities in their county. When we reach that point, I will propose a legislation to put in place the process of oversight in counties, so that governors do not imagine that Senators are on a witch- hunt mission. It will be good if in a financial year we put in the budget of a county an oversight framework and a meeting between the executive, the Senator and his team of oversight together with the MCAs and agree on a framework of oversight. When Senators go to the field to check on projects and ask questions, it will be within a certain framework that will enable the Senate to make meaningful progress in terms of oversight and make sure that funds that go to counties impact the lives of citizens at the county level. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard Services,Senate."
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