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    "content": "It is important to appreciate that what we would like to do in this House and what we will expect the Government to do is to have a trim Cabinet. We do not want the existing “classrooms.” We do not want to see what we have just witnessed this week and yesterday afternoon where Ministers cannot subscribe to Section 17(3) of the Constitution which provides for collective responsibility and coming here to contradict themselves. This is happening because the Cabinet is bloated. We have given a number that we think is manageable; a number that we think, in my view, we need this number to be reduced to 20. I invited various stakeholders and we negotiated on this thing, so I conceded to the number of 24. We cannot argue about the population. Philippines has almost 100 million people. With a population of 91 million, it has only 20 Cabinet Ministers. The great United States of America (USA) has only 15 Ministers. So, we cannot argue about our population! We want to argue about a number of offices. We want a small number so that when you are a Minister you are a real Minister. Sometimes I wonder when departments are made Ministries whether these Ministers are responsible for Ministries or small departments. I want a Kenyan who can rise to that position of a Minister to be somebody we can all appreciate, uphold and know, yes, here is Mr. Minister!"
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