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    "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I wish to support this Motion for the very basic reason of management. Within this House, the issue of collective responsibility has come up so many times. I think one of the challenges that we face in dealing with the issue of collective responsibility is that the Cabinet is over-crowded. I know there are other challenges to do with it, but one of them is that they are not able to bond. They are not able to claim ownership because with such a big a Cabinet, it is not really easy for anybody to manage. So, for very practical reasons of management--- I have been a manager and I know that. Even when you sit in board meetings and you have a board of more than seven people, it is a nightmare! But when you are dealing with over 40 Members, that is a choir and people will sing with all manner of voices. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am happy with the provision that provides for the consolidation of Ministries. If you can actually look at one of the issues that has recently been a challenge to us, it is the Mau issue. You can see that there have been attempts to address this issue from the Ministry of Forestry and Wildlife, Ministry of Lands and Ministry of Environment and Mineral Resources. Why? It is because it cuts across all those Ministries. I know that even with the consolidation, there may still be overlapping factors. But we can minimize them. If you actually look at the schedule where certain Ministries have been consolidated, they have similarities of duties. I would strongly urge that we go in that direction. I would only put one rider. I have noticed that in the Schedule, the bit on children has disappeared. I would urge that as it goes to the relevant committee--- When it goes to the Third Stage, we have an amendment that the docket about children be put under the Ministry of Youth Affairs and Sports. I know that traditionally in this country, we have put children under the Ministry of Gender and Children Affairs. That, to me, actually enhances stereotyping about the roles of women. I know that women have the core role of caring and nurturing, but in terms of management of resources, that caring and nurturing role does not really apply at the national level. Therefore, I would urge that the issue of children be placed under the Ministry of Youth Affairs and Sports because there are overlapping issues. Under the Children Act, a child is up to the age of 18, whereas the youth go up to age of 25. That, therefore, means that some children are youth and some youth are children. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I also would want that we specifically provide, either within the Schedule under consolidation, or where we are describing the roles on the"
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