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    "id": 1272409,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Emurua Dikirr, UDA",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Johana Kipyegon",
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    "content": "public institutions and Government ministries - everywhere that has anything to do with the public, there is a culture where people believe that this is money for free. I remember we used to have some fields which were owned by the Government. We used to call them “county grounds” where you could graze your livestock without payments. So, there is the mentality that public funds are just there to be wasted. It is time we addressed this issue very seriously. As a House, sometimes we speak to the Executive without speaking to ourselves. You know this House has the greatest responsibility to legislate on how to curb corruption. This House has the mandate to oversee all the corrupt people in the Executive, the Judiciary and even this House itself. We have the capacity. We have the requisite laws in place to help us curb corruption. Therefore, as much as we might be speaking to people in other arms of the Government, we need to speak to ourselves. We need to begin with ourselves, because a Government is corrupt when the people who are supposed to oversee those in Government sleep on the job. A Government becomes corrupt when the legislature or even the Judiciary is completely broken down. While the legislature can identify areas where corruption is, the Judiciary is supposed to deal with that menace. However, if the Legislature and the Judiciary have been compromised, those in the Executive can do whatever they want. It is upon this House to wake up and stop whining about corruption in the Government. It is ourselves, the Members of this House, who can bring corruption to zero in this country. I do not know when we will also understand that we have the capacity even as committees - especially the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) and the Public Investment Committee (PIC) - to ensure that there is totally no corruption in the country. In fact, we should be waiting for those committees to bring their reports on corrupt cases in every Government ministry and parastatal instead of Members coming here to say that such ministry is corrupt. It is the work of PIC and PAC to ensure that there is zero corruption in this country. Apart from corruption, there is too much wastage in the Government. Government ministry officials operate too many vehicles. You find all sorts of Government employees using very expensive vehicles that consume a lot of fuel. It is also time for us to help the Government curb corruption."
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