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    "id": 1282048,
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    "speaker_name": "Turkana East, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Nicholas Ngikor",
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    "content": "citizens, then the Turkana herders will be released. It looks like the Ugandan Government has no case on these herders, and they are just trying to detain them because they were found in their country grazing livestock. It is good for our country now to take this thing seriously because, according to the statement, those who killed the five Ugandans cannot be identified by Ugandans. This incident happened in Uganda. Why is the Ugandan Government telling the Kenyan Government that they need to bring the five killers, and yet they know that this happened in their country and how it happened? Hon. Deputy Speaker, it happened one time that a delegation went to Uganda over the same issue. I was among the delegates who went to Uganda at that time. The place where these herders were, and where the five Ugandans were killed is far away. They need to differentiate between the two incidents of the herders being caught with guns and the issue of the killing of the five Ugandans. These are two different stories. The Kenyan Government needs to take it seriously because we cannot leave it the way it is, where we are being given conditions. The condition which has no truth in it: that we need to provide the killers of the five Ugandans. How? This thing happened in Uganda. The Turkana herders were far away from where the incident took place. I went there personally, and we argued with those officers from the Ugandan side. It seems like there was no truth in what they were saying. From that day, they got worried about where the Kenyans were arrested from. We argued with them, and it reached a point where we established our people were innocent. Our KDF Liaison Officer in Uganda must also tell the Government the truth as to how this incident happened and the place where the herders were grazing their livestock. Our people are being raided in Uganda on allegations that they take guns to Uganda. Where did the guns that raided our people in Uganda come from if the Government of Uganda says that people in their country do not carry guns? Hon. Deputy Speaker, this incident must be looked into. We cannot leave this matter, yet our people are dying in those cells without being given justice. We need our people to be given justice and taken to a court of law to be tried and found guilty or not. Since they got arrested, nobody has charged them. They were just taken from the barracks to the cells. Nobody knows whether they went through any fair trial in Uganda. We need this thing to be followed up. The report by the Hon. Leader of the Majority Party is not enough. Those concerned, our liaison officer in Uganda and the foreign affairs office must follow up on this to bring justice to the Turkana herders arrested in Uganda."
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