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    "id": 1282481,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Orwoba",
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    "content": "So, the only thing that I would like to point out so that we are also not lying to Kenyans, is that we have legal frameworks to have these national dialogues. We have the National Cohesion and Integration Commission (NCIC). In the Senate and the National Assembly, we have a committee on National Cohesion and Equal Opportunity. So, as much as I support this Motion, I have to say that we are being unfair to the President because the President has set out to put out austerity measures to ensure that we are not spending money that should not be spent yet we are here creating another entity when we could have used the NCIC. We could have used our joint committee between the National Assembly and the Senate to actually have the framework and the discussion. Those platforms have equal opportunities that we could have made effective. Mr. Speaker, Sir, as legislators, as much as I support this Motion, we are being unfair to the taxpayers because I am sure this Committee is going to draw some sort of allowance. I am sure we are going to incur expenses on the same, and it is not fair to tell the taxpayers that we are going to pay the Commission and the committees, and now we are coming together to have a National Dialogue Committee, on top of all the legal frameworks that we have. However, I agree we need a national dialogue, therefore, I support this Motion."
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